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fiber of the U.S., whether it was going to hell or not--he feeling that it was going to hell--I'm not sure that it's the U.S. as a whole, but I must say I think that the financial community--it's going to take a long time for it to recover its credibility.

What were some of the problems that you dealt with today? You had mentioned some off-tape. That you thought about.

Oh, then I came back and I was trying to sign up James Michener to make a speech on conservation, preservation-conservation. And I talked to his secretary, and unfortunately, he's had a quintuple bypass, and is also having his hip-bone replaced, so he's not expected to be jumping around a couple of months, three months from now. Although his assistant said: “Oh, for next year, I'm sure he'll be fine. He'll be full of vim and vigor to do it next year!” And then I'd been fussing about the president of the Library--

Gregorian?

Gregorian--who is reasonably well-paid, but works 15 hours a day, is greatly overweight. Well, one of our trustees had put aside some money to invest in some form to give him a certain sense of security, psychological as much as anything else.

This would be--a personal gesture, has nothing to do with his actual compensation at the Library.