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white government more stubborn and more difficult to deal with, until somewhere down the line you'll get revolution, then a lot of bloodshed, and God knows what after that.

Was this a number of times discussed in the Corporation?

Oh, forever. I mean, at least 20 times in the last two years.

Is there generally consensus, or do different people in the Corporation, do different of the fellows have different views?

There are some who feel more strongly about it than others. Derek has given it the most thought, and is very articulate about it; has been the person who has been firmest on the whole issue, I would say, of all of us. But I don't think there's anybody who said they were for divestment. I think quite a few people felt that sooner or later it would become necessary--for our own good, not necessarily for South Africa's good: namely, to keep peace in the university.

Can you think of other issues that we haven't discussed that are, you know, kind of student-political issues that you've had to deal with?

Well, there's always the question of quote “minority representation” in the faculties. There are not very many women with