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Stone, who had helped me secure funds for some other project that I
was involved in--probably in the urban world, or something like
that--I can't remember what the subject was. And I think he had a
house up in Vermont. And one day, he said to me: “You know, they
really need a fellow like you as a trustee at Bennington.” I barely
knew what Bennington was. But--
Approximately when are you talking about?
'64. No, earlier, earlier. '62. Yes, I did 14 years,
two terms and I was out of there by '77, I think. And so I--you
know--who am I to turn down the Ford Foundation? Not me!
[end of cassette one, side one: beginning of cassette one, side
I went there, I got up there--in those happy days I could
use a company plane for my professional associations of this kind,
and they had a tiny little airport up there--it was always rather
hazardous, getting up, but anyway, it saved me a five-hour drive.
And I got to Bennington, and I found this rather interesting
institution that had been started in the middle-thirties really as an
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