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Today is the Twenty Fourth of February, 1987, This is Jessica Holland. We are at 870 U.N. Plaza for the oral history collection of Columbia University. Would you state and spell your full name?

Andrew Heiskell, H-e-i-s-k-e-l-l.

Wait, there's something, hold on just one second. [scratching sound] O.K. You just remembered something about Joseph Welch the McCarthy lawyer.

Yes. It was a rather funny story. This was before Joe Welch was known. Before the McCarthy trial, if you can call it a trial. We were involved in some law suit and I was asked to testify. The deposition part of the trial was taking place in Boston, and I went up there and met a local lawyer who I'd never met before, a man by the name of Joseph Welch who became quite famous later on.

This would be the early Fifties?