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things which they, the parents, consider to be against the teachings
of The Bible, and that in any instance where the teacher is doing so
they will have the right to take the children out of the school.
Then there's another somewhat similar case in Alabama, and in both of
these cases we represent--we are fighting--and we have been able to
get lawyers to contribute their time pro bono. However, there's an
interesting side aspect to that.
The first time that I was brought face to face with this was
another instance, I forget what it was. But anyway we got a firm to
give us a lawyer, a very good lawyer. But they said, “Of course you
have to pay out-of-pocket expenses”. And we said, “Well, of course
we'll pay the out-of-pocket expenses. What might they be?” They
said, “Between a hundred and two hundred thousand dollars.” That was
quite a lot of money for what was then a very small organization.
Today we could afford it. But it shows you the problem of justice is
also comes in economic terms. If out of pocket expenses are going to
be a hundred or two hundred thousand dollars for a suit.
Have you gotten involved in fundraising?
Oh, we have some of the best fundraisers of them all. Yes
I get involved in fundraising regularly for them. Much of it is done
by direct mail. Much of it is done by television advertising spots.
Of course, Norman Lear is very good at creating those. And these
spots have had great impact, both in terms of bringing us allies and
in terms of bringing us money. The direct mail has been
extraordinarily successful. We seem to touch a nerve with our direct
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