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issue in the U.S., and more and more intellectuals were turning against the war in Vietnam. And more and more students were turning against Vietnam, in part, of course, because there was a draft. And who the hell wanted to go spend the next three years fighting in Vietnam? So a lot of them went to Canada. Some still are there, by the way.

I'm having a lack of memory of--I know that gradually during that period that doubts got larger and larger. First it was just doubt of winning. And then ultimately it became an issue of what were we doing in Vietnam? And I'm trying to remember; it also got mixed up with Watergate at some point.

Let me ask you a few questions, I think, here, to focus us a little bit. According to the Prendergast history, a number of problems occured at Time, the magazine, perhaps at Life as well, as a result of Vietnam. There's a mention, for example, that there's a sense that towards the end of the Sixties when the editorial policy was still pro Vietnam, that so much of the staff was against it that there was turbulance inside the editorial staff about Time's position. Do you recall that?

Yes, well, there was the issue of the correspondents and what they were filing, and how it was being re-written. I think particularly, in Time.

What do you recall of it? I'll just refresh you on a couple of things. That was first complained about in the early Sixties by