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as you know, in the Americans participating daily in the Vietnam War via television, on their screens. In retrospect, obviously they were right and our people in Washington were wrong, but that doesn't mean that they were lying. That means that they were reflecting the power view and the other guys were reflecting what was in the field. But you also have to say to yourself, as a generality, that while the person in the field is close and is indeed seeing what he is seeing, he is always seeing a rather narrow section of the total problem.

But would you say--because all of the media didn't cover Vietnam the way Time did, Time Magazine did--would you say that, as you began the discussion saying that there was this extra, if I understood you correctly, zing to the situation because of the historical relationship of Luce and China. Would you say that Time erred even more in the direction of believing the Washington line, than it might have otherwise? In some quarters it was--

Probably.

--called the Time's House War. Do you remember that phrase?

No.

Vietnam was refered to sometimes as-

No. No. Probably, yeah.