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thermometer there and that the temperature that they were working in was forty-six degreés. I wondered to myself, “How can they possibly do that?” And I looked down at the gentleman who was opposite to me and I could see his ankles had wool socks on. And then I could see three layers of clothing under the outside layer coming down his pants. And that's how they lived and operated. It is extraordinary. As primitive as everything about it was primitive. And of course, we went to all the obligatory farms and all that. But if you've never been to China, it's very interesting.

Did I have any others? Well, my retirement gift from the company was to go to South Africa, which I'd never been to and always wanted to. And I got a very good look at South Africa in 1980, including Soweto. You have to have a pass to get into Soweto. You're not allowed to go there except between, I think, 10 and 4 o'clock in the day. We saw Bishop Tutu. We saw the absolute horror of the way that blacks live there. And we met with a great number of people. Went to Capetown which is probably the most beautiful city in the world, gorgeous. And drove up the east coast of South Africa which is also as beautiful a drive as I've ever made anywhere in the world. And, of course, the troubles were already underway then and have simply aggravated. And it's just a matter of how long before things turn really violent and blacks will take over.

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Were you received by any government people?





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