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you've participated in.
This inevitably leads us into the Urban thing, so
why don't we just-
Go into the Urban Coalition?
Into the whole urban scene.
I think I may have spoken about the early days of
the American Council to Improve Our Neighborhoods. Did I?
I think you have.
I think I did. And the fight between the public
housers and the private housers. Well, one of the people
involved there was Jim Rouse, in that effort. And he was
the great evangelist. You could put him in front of a
thousand people who had never thought about housing or
poverty, and after twenty minutes they would be completely
imbued with the problem, and most of them would leave the
room determined to do something about it. He's that
powerful in his convictions and in his ability to express
them. And he was one of the founders of ACTION. And we had
a, we had a very simple goal, namely to make sure that
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