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You were starting to say, really became the anti-Nixon, an anti-Nixon group and you were saying, you advised your people-

Oh, I didn't finish the sentence. Well, now, we go so involved in Watergate, and Nixon, and doing something about it, and of course, an awful lot of people in the country were equally exercised and our membership grew and grew because of that feeling, that revulsion in the country about Watergate. And I just advised my colleagues, “You realize, of course, if you're successful and Nixon goes, your target goes and your membership's going to drop.” [laughter]

Always the publisher.

Which turned out did happen.

What were you going to say about Moynihan?

Well, that's how I got to know Moynihan was the only person in the administration who was really sympathetic to what the Urban Coalition was doing, and Common Cause was doing. Poor John Gardner had to learn how to drink Martinis because the way you succeed with Pat is listening to a lot of Irish stuff and drinking a lot of Martinis. And John Gardner who is practically a teatoter claims that it's all