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at me and then gave up. And then fortunately his term expired sometime in 1985, or 1986. 1986 I think it was.

We had to get commitments from Mosher and Gersten which meant-

So nothing became of this?

Nothing came of this.

Now, let's try to put this in a sequence in the events, this incident you're referring to. I'm looking at news clips here, O.K.

Yep.

You were brought in and the article about the thirteen being to the Beaumont board was dated October 12th, 1984, O.K.? October 16th, that was from the New York Times. So is this, October 16th, 1984, Crinkley was out as the Beaumont director. That probably happened simultaneously with your joining. Do you remember that at the first meeting you attended?

He was out before.

He was out before. O.K., now the next-

A public announcement was made that he was out.

That he was out, O.K. So some action had been--and the previous