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because there was need for a more business-like approach to the operation. And Vic Palmieri had become famous for taking broken down companies like the Penn Central and turning them around, and making them profitable. Well, he's discovered the theater is a little different from Penn Central. In the meantime the artistic team planned two years worth of plays, and have a howling success. Considering that they started from point zero, the record of the last two years at the. Beaumont is really quite extraordinary. We had “Blue Leaves”. That was such a success that it went on to Broadway and has been running there for four months. Most of the things that we've put on were hits with the exception of the Arthur Miller plays, and the very mixed reviews on the Soyinka play. But after three years we find ourselves in a very difficult position of being close to bankrupt. I think technically we will be considered to be bankrupt. So we spent two hours yesterday afternoon trying to figure out how the hell we could get out of that. And I don't think we did figure it out because there isn't the kind of sense of commitment on the part of most of the people there that's needed. John Lindsay is a practicing lawyer so he doesn't even attend all the meetings. He may attend every other meeting.

As chairman?

Yeah. Well, this was a development committee meeting, but still, as chairman he should--At the Library I attend every bloody meeting there is. There isn't a cohesive quality to it. There isn't a team of directors who are determined to make the thing go.