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over the whole thing. The next morning I said, “Boy, of all the disasters I've ever known that was it.” Well of course what I didn't know was that they were splitting up. So I'd pushed her into doing this even though she and Sam were splitting up. So, anyway. But it also took six months to get Annette to make up her mind.

And you got Ann Getty on the board.

We got Ann Getty on the board. It took nine months to get her to make up her mind.

What about a corporate chieftain like McGillicuddy?

Well you know it's very funny, these corporate chieftains. I'll tell you about McGillicuddy. He had been on the board for awhile, and he hadn't done a goddamn thing with it, other than hold a meeting or two. Manufacturer's Hanover was giving, I don't know, about ten, twenty thousand dollars. Dick Salomon and I were saying, “How the hell do we get rid of this guy? He's not carrying his weight a bit. One day McGillicuddy says, “Well, I think Manufacturer's Hanover should give a million.” Salomon and I fainted. Total lack of interest, seemingly, and suddenly a million. Well that helped too. We were then already soliciting the big corporations and major targets, and we were going after the city and state for money. We were going after the city--we wanted to get the city committed before we went public so that they wouldn't face the problem of, “Why are you doing all this for the Library and not for