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was there anything very different at that point?

Well, it was simpler, because it was much smaller. There was a managing editor, there was the art director, there was the Dan Longwell position--assistant managing editor--and the Hicks position, and then there was a row of about--oh, I don't know--ten or twelve editors: foreign, U.S., science, entertainment, so on. Relative--I don't think there were more than ten or twelve of us at that level. Then each of us had one or two researchers, and then there was a picture bureau in the back, and we all could fit into one small floor quite comfortably.

But Time wasn't on the same floor?

No, Time was a different floor. Fortune was on a different floor.

Did Henry Luce use to come through the floor?

Yes. I can't quite remember what floor he was on. He would come by, but not that often. Let's see--he was quite heavily involved in LIFE still in 1937, when I came, and then--I don't know--by '39 his involvement was more by memo than hands-on editing. And after that the magazine got so complicated to close--I don't know how many years later he finally came down, edited for a month and found it nearly impossible to do, because he didn't understand all the mechanical intricacies of closing five pages from five different