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was there anything very different at that point?
Well, it was simpler, because it was much smaller. There
was a managing editor, there was the art director, there was the Dan
Longwell position--assistant managing editor--and the Hicks position,
and then there was a row of about--oh, I don't know--ten or twelve
editors: foreign, U.S., science, entertainment, so on. Relative--I
don't think there were more than ten or twelve of us at that level.
Then each of us had one or two researchers, and then there was a
picture bureau in the back, and we all could fit into one small floor
But Time wasn't on the same floor?
No, Time was a different floor. Fortune was on a
Did Henry Luce use to come through the floor?
Yes. I can't quite remember what floor he was on. He
would come by, but not that often. Let's see--he was quite heavily
involved in LIFE still in 1937, when I came, and then--I don't
know--by '39 his involvement was more by memo than hands-on editing.
And after that the magazine got so complicated to close--I don't know
how many years later he finally came down, edited for a month and
found it nearly impossible to do, because he didn't understand all
the mechanical intricacies of closing five pages from five different
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