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collaboration, you won't get any good promotion. In all the years that I was publisher there, I always worked with the managing editor, spent a lot of time with him on planning, talking about features. We had the weekly cover conference, when we picked the cover. Sure, the managing editor had the last word on it, but it was a joint collaboration.

Was there a weekly cover conference when you first got there as well?

No; later on. I'm sorry--when I became publisher?

Yes, so you're talking about from '46.

In those early stages I didn't have enough rank for that. Roy would have been doing that.

In other words, you don't know when they started, but you started participating after you became publisher.

Yes; or general manager, maybe.

O.K. Just as long as we're on the subject, why won't you describe what a weekly cover meeting would be.

Well, the meeting would usually be attended by the managing editor and probably a couple of other editors, and the art