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Sidney James--

Sidney James, go ahead.

--who had been editor of Sports Illustrated and publisher of Sports Illustrated--I forget what he was at that point.

That was later. This is 1948!

Oh, that's before he became that. That's right. He worked for LIFE! That's right. He just worked for LIFE.

The next thing I knew, he and I were, in effect, running the coverage of the convention. I'd never been to a convention before--he had, thank God! There were some talented NBC people there--not famous, because, in those days, of course, very few people were famous on TV yet. And I had more fun doing this than most anything I'd ever done, because I did exactly what I wanted. The big mucky-mucks at NBC would come by at 8 o'clock in the evening to see what we were doing, but they were there for social purposes. Sid and I were doing this twenty hours a day, and we were not only deciding who we would interview and what we would get the NBC guys to ask, so on and so on, but during the convention itself, we would be photographing the convention, and when I got bored by some speaker, I'd say, “Who'd we got on reserve in the studio?”--we always had a couple of people on reserve to talk to--and I'd just cut off the main show-- [laughs]