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not--I think we had the good sense not to call it. I believe we just
went off the air at something like 4 o'clock in the morning or 3
o'clock in the morning, and said, “Well, kids--to the public--I think
we'll see you at 7 and tell you what happened.”
Okay. Let's talk about McCarthyism. Again, we're just talking
about various subjects. And you were publisher of LIFE at that time.
I was just wondering what memories at all you have of that period and
of Joe McCarthy vis-a-vis any publication at Time or Henry Luce.
I've a funny recollection that's only got a slight
connection, but I'll tell it for what it's worth. We were involved
in some kind of a suit, and I had to go to Boston to testify. Our
lawyer was a fellow by the name of Joe Welch--anyway, it will come
back to me. He was a charming man.
He was from Cravath?
No, he was from Boston--
--he was the man who finally nailed McCarthy, with that
famous, famous quote--which I also forget--but if you remember, on
T.V. there was a famous quote: “Senator, have you no shame?” And
that's when McCarthy crumpled. Well, this charming Bostonian was my
lawyer up there. We were in the cross-exam, testifying, pre-trial-
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