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anti-communist, but he also employed an awful lot of liberals, from the start.

Okay. Let's talk--

MacLeish was not exactly a rock-ribbed Republican.

So how do you explain that?

Well, his first interest was journalism. And his first interest was putting out very good magazines. I say first--it was always first, but in the early days, he had only one love and that was journalism. That was really it. Later on, he became much more involved in the political scene. From, I guess, the time of Willkie on, he became involved in being a political activist, and in trying to get the Republican Party back into power, aided and abetted by his wife.

We'll talk about that tomorrow, I think. We'll get to that.

That could be libelous. [laughs]

We'll have fun! I want to talk to you about the Cold War now, but I don't want you to feel I'm pushing in the direction--pushing you to answer in a particular way. If you have nothing to say about something, or if you disagree totally with the implication of the question, say so. Okay?