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Who were--

Larsen.

--the people within the company in the early days--

--who were closest to him.

--who were close to him. Larson, Jackson--

C.D. Jackson.

C.D. Jackson. Black--but only in relation to advertising and the--

Howard Black.

Howard Black.

Billings?

Well, Billings was the perfect lieutenant to Harry and did whatever Harry asked him to do, and did it well. But as you know, he was also quietly and personally resentful of Harry and Harry's bossing around and all of that, which came out in--not his memoirs but his diaries that were made available later on. Allen Grover was