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having the best of both: I mean, as long as he wanted to he was editor-in-chief, and when he felt like going off to Italy or to do whatever, he could do whatever. [laughs]

Because Donovan was there.

Because Donovan was there, and yes--you know, he felt that he had created the right kind of organization.

So it sounds like, from your description, that he wasn't guilty of what so many founder-owners in their organizations are: that he was concerned with the continuance and the good management after his death--

Yes--

That he had that vision.

Yes, and also, unlike many, he did not consider it “a family affair,” and that his son should succeed him. Many would have waited a few more years in the hope that the son would appear to be the logical successor. That was never an issue as far as I can tell.

When Luce and Larsen spoke with you, what did they say would be your role versus Linen's role? It seems to me that--

Well, they had trouble with that, and I guess to some