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much, no.

Was there anybody on the board you found difficult dealing with?

Well, Bob Keelor never understood what anything was about, which made it difficult. And he also was to the right of a Genghis Khan, so he considered that all of our publications were practically communist.

[laughs] Who brought him in the port?

Oh, he came with Temple. He's Arthur's brother-in-law. Or he was. He's dead.

Rawleigh Warner was always the best prepared of them all. Somehow or the other, though God knows that the oil business is far removed from publishing and television. He had done his homework so well that he would ask the most penetrating questions, and clearly push you right up against the wall. And just as you thought your head was going to hit the wall, he would then pull back and drop the matter. But it was a very good exercise. When I was thinking of a board meeting, I would sort of visualize Rawleigh Warner and what questions he might ask, and would I be prepared to answer him to his satisfaction.

Gaylord Freeman spoke at great length about practically anything and everything, but I can't say that his views were terribly useful. He was very interesting because he was a great international banker, and he could expound on the state of the world and would practically