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Oh, no. Where I went was--on the news tours, we would charter one big plane, and then so as not to have all our management together on one plane, we would take the G-2, Gulfstream II, along on the news tours, and if it was Shepley and I, or Donovan and I, one would fly one plane and one would fly on the other.

But was the G-2 used, as many of them are, to also take the top people to where they had to--bring them back from a weekend, or take them to a weekend, just get them around?

It used to be, in what is known as “the good old days.”

Which would be from when to when? Approximately.

Oh, that'd been in the 1960s. And then we clamped down, and there was less and less of it.

The G-2 could go abroad, right?

Yes, it went around the world!

On the news tours,

Yes. Sure, sure.

Okay. Anything else on real estate?