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other than, if the body criticizes, it's going to have its impact. And if the body puts out a piece of paper saying that such and such an area is in bad shape, and then the Crimson prints it, and then everybody knows about it, and--the Crimson being the paper at Harvard, put out by students--and of course, everybody is ready to latch on to any criticism, particularly of an institution that is as preeminent as Harvard is. The Boston Globe is watching every move that's taking place, ready to pounce, every time it gets the opportunity.

But in other words, then, it's a power of persuasion.

Yes.

--in that sense. And now, if I understand what you were saying about how the board was operating when you arrived in '73, it sounds like it was an adversarial Board.

It was. Adversarial toward the administration and it was adversarial internally.

Was this a function of a consequence that had come out of the whole--all the 1960s and early 1970s, the upheaval?

Probably. It was a hangover of the troubles of the late 1960s. Well, the oversees--I guess, I wasn't there then--were badly split. And of course, a body that big wasn't in any position to