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thing. They told me the rules of various committees and all that sort of thing.

I wasn't much interested in the Franklin Roosevelt - “Blue-eyed Billy” Sheehan fight. I didn't give a hang who they had for the office for which he'd been nominated. It didn't mean anything to me. But I heard these comments. I know that people like Hammitt of the Citizen's Union and Binkerd of the City Club - that group of people - and the better newspaper men thought that Roosevelt was doing a fine job. It was a wonderful thing to come out and oppose a man who wasn't qualified to be a United States Senator.

The comment of the other Democratic people mostly was that Roosevelt was making an ass of himself. What did he know about these things anyhow and who was he to think that he knew so much better than other people that he would pretend to pass on the qualifications of a man like Sheehan? Then I would be told by Josiah Newcomb and Wainwright that Roosevelt was right. Sheehan was not a fit man to be United States Senator, not because he was a Democrat, but because he was a low-lived kind of a person. He wasn't a man of probity.

Chauncey Depew was his predecessor. I remember asking naively whether Chauncey Depew was a man of probity. All I

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