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heard anybody but a New Englander use that phrase, except Al Smith. He must have gotten it from his mother - a wonderful old woman. Ah, she was a great person. My grandmother always used to use it. The penny-pinching, stiff-necked, nose-in-the-air school all do - “I don't like to be under obligation to anyone.” It's a good protection against certain kinds of corruption if public life if you just don't care to be under obligations. I heard Smith say that on two different occasions. It was obviously a childhood pattern and memory. It wasn't arrived at lately. It was something that had been going along with him as a conviction for a great many years.

But at the time of Sulzer's impeachment he hadn't begun to stand out for his personal qualities.

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