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we weren't investigating the working condition of longshoremen, but Paul Kennedy and John Andrews did. You pick up a lot. Some people could write articles and books about the casual trades, which is the shape-up, which is the method of long-shoreman hiring which is causing such a fuss in 1953. It's one of the causes of casualness in longshoreman employment. Great tomes have been written on labor conditions in the stevedoring and longshoreman trades in England, France, Denmark, Belgium, Holland, Sweden and the U.S.A. You didn't have to go in 1938 to sit in a waterfront cafe to find out about it.

What all this illustrates is Roosevelt's mind - how hungry he was for a good story. Mrs. Rosenberg learned that and gave him the good story. That's how Mrs. Rosenberg appeared on the scene - Miss Robinson's friend. This is how she came to be a national figure. She's a bold person and had no hesitance about pressing herself into various things. I don't know the full story of how she got where she is and how she made her impression on George Marshall, but this is how she arrived on the President's doorstep.

She came down to Washington that next Tuesday with the people and said to the President that she would like to see him afterwards, which she did. Anyhow, he introduced her to McIntyre, told McIntyre what a smart girl she was