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Well, I don't think a serious question, because we were in the midst of war. Nothing like so serious as the problems that arose in '40, when there was a very sharp antagonism about the third term. But the fourth term, in the first place, seemed less offensive than the third term had because there was no tradition about it. And second, we were in the midst of war. You just can't change horses.

Curiously, Roosevelt was greatly stimulated by that '44 campaign. You see, at first he said that he wasn't going to pay any attention to it. This was war and we must go about our business. Then they began to realize that Dewey was making inroads here and there, and they decided that he must go out. He did it with a great deep groan. He felt he shouldn't have to do this. And they planned a campaign for him which was a really tough one.

Get into the campaign later. Let's stick to the convention first.

Well, what about the convention? Because I get these conventions all mixed up. Where was this one held?

Chicago.

What was the one that was held in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania? That was '36, I guess. Then '40 and '44 were both in Chicago. The next was going to be there, wasn't it?