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political interposition of one person or another.

Bob Hannegan?

Well, possibly Hannegan. Possibly other people who were bored with Wallace.

Byrnes?

Oh, Byrnes, certainly. I mean, the people who were bored with Wallace. That was one of the reasons I warned Wallace not to go to China. These people could get in their licks. I knew they were standing around waiting to get in their licks against him.

This brings another question up too, which is part of the same question, and that is this new-group that was coming in to power, under Roosevelt--men like Leo Crowley, Ed Pauley. Harry Truman's rise in prominence as a Senator.

Well, Harry Truman's rise to prominence as a Senator was deserved. He did well, and he got a seniority appointment to an important committee, and he did well at it.

And then, the use of Byrnes. Vinson is another newcomer.

They'd been in the place--not in the intimate circles,