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and if the facts in it are not true. There is a question, “Have you ever been a Communist?” you see. “Are you now or have you ever been a Communist?”

At any rate, he'd given it no thought. Well, that was his story. I remember in his case we had a long discussion. He didn't want to give up his job at all. He loved it and he wanted to staye in the Government. He had a wife and two or three children by this time, and he was ruined and so forth. He got letters from all kinds of people.

But I finally persuaded him that it was useless. He'd now fallen into the situation where he had a perjury charge against him, and he might as well give up and go back out into the world and get his living in the newspaper world some way or other.

So he finally did give up. I used to hear from him at Christmas time, once a year. He made good out in the far West somewhere. He went and took up someland that he or his father had owned in a little town in Southern California, and then he began to edit a little rival newspaper which he started, he and his wife. Then he finally was given a job on the local newspaper, and then he bought out the local newspaper, and he was running a small newspaper the last time I heard of him and was a perfectly all right citizen.

I cite that as being an example of the kind of thing that would turn up in the background of some of these younger men.