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maintaining manpower all over the world, and technology has changed that too, because you don't need the --You can get places now, with the technology, that you couldn't get to before. But, when that news organization was being put together, we had people in a lot of different bureaus that CBS doesn't have today. It was a luxury.

It sounds like a very exciting period.

Oh, it was a wonderful period. You can, I guess, get some sense of my reaction by the way I light up like a pinball machine, because it was an absolutely fascinating period. Everything was happening. Not only was the world changing, but the technology of the communications world was changing. So, you were, not on a rocket, but on an ascending curve that was just fascinating. Now you have it, but I think people are a little jaded in their reactions to it now. This was a period when a lot of these things were still Buck Rogers, as far as the real world was concerned.

Just to return to the discussions about space, I'm so interested in this -- Did people see at the time, this group of scientists that you were in, military applications --

For space?

-- for the space program?

Oh, sure.

Was that part of the decision that was made? Or, how was the decision made?, if you