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it again that way today.

A lot's come out since then that I didn't know at that time.

Such as.

Well, for one thing Fred came in and read me the letter that he was going to send me as his resignation, over this issue. I hope I'm not confusing two different things, but I think I've got it right. Anyway, he came in to, in a very--I shouldn't say amicable fashion, but it was two adults talking about a tough situation--because he had threatened to pull the roof in on himself. I thought it was foolish, and I was trying to persuade him to live with the new regime.

I couldn't forever have everything reporting to me, and I had to delegate certain things. Fred wouldn't accept that, and on the final day--I think we had come up to a Friday night and hadn't been able to resolve the conflict--both of us agreed we'd think about it over the weekend. We had an appointment, I believe, at ten o'clock on Monday morning, right after my regular staff meeting.

Fred read me a letter that he was going to send me--a very strong protest about the company's attitude toward the coverage, and while he was reading it to me and was sitting across from my desk, Miss [Winnie] Williams buzzed me and said that Jack Gould, who was then the chief broadcast critic for the Times--just died recently--very strong man--that Jack Gould was outside and wanted to see me, because he had received a copy.