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With the building? I loved it. Sure.

It's still quite a beautiful building.

I guess I don't have it here, but some of the men working on the maintenance took a block of the granite--made a slab of it and framed it with chrome, a very narrow edge of chrome, so it was about the size of this briefcase and gave it to me, with a little note, as a memento of the building. I thought it was one of the most lovely--not an overwhelming building in size--neat but not gaudy, if you want to talk about it that way. And certainly distinguished. But it was allowed to run down, because the people that followed on just didn't have any interest in the building. You've got to have an interest in it, or it doesn't survive. I don't know what they'll do with the building now.

What did the dark gray, rough granite symbolize artistically?

To me?

To you--about CBS.

Well, first of all it wasn't a “monkey see; monkey do” building. At that time, every building that went up in the world was a glass cube. You can see them all over the landscape from here to San Diego. It wasn't until those three buildings of McGraw-Hill, Exxon and--I've forgotten the third one--that they broke with the glass boxes. The limestone came back into its own at that point. But the glass boxes were everyplace.