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Yes. Oh, no. Ruth told me that early on she was concerned about what was going to happen when he finally decided that the social life he was living wasn't what he really wanted and he wanted to come back in--that the organization wouldn't recognize him or give him the recognition that he wanted. They did, but they didn't.

As Bob [Robert D.] Wood, who was the head of the television network said publicly, “That building is Frank's building; it isn't Bill's building.” That just infuriated Paley. And that was generally the attitude of people, that my life was much more closely, at that period, with CBS than his. He played a very important role in the early days, and he played an important in the later days, in certain phases of the company; but the twenty-three years we were in number-one ratings position in terms of sales and profits, a lot of that was due, I think, to the hard work that I put into it.

And I had wonderful guys, absolutely wonderful guys to work with. Goddard Lieberson, who headed the record company, was the best in the business. Jack Schneider would have been a terrific guy to run the company, but Paley knew, I guess, that Jack had his own agenda and wasn't going to bend. And I couldn't persuade Bill that that was wrong. Because by that time they were in deep trouble, and Schneider would have been the guy to pull them out, but Paley wouldn't go with it.

I've got to--

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