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That's fine, if they don't want it. I think that's entirely up to the people in Kansas City; if they don't want the program, not to have it. I'd like to have it available to them, if they wanted to turn it on and turn it off, but when you're getting it over free television--”free television” in quotes--then I think you're limited to what you can provide by way of the number of services.

There will come a time, in my opinion, when a convent or a religious sect will be so outraged by what's coming into their premises and into the homes of their community that they'll go to their congressman and say: “We demand some kind of clearance on this--some kind of supervision.” When that day comes and the government sets up a board of censorship or a board of program control--call it whatever you want to; and you can dress it up, it'll still be the same thing--then I think you're right smack up against what the forefathers meant by “There shall be no interference with the free flow of information.”

You can say, “Well, this is different,” but I don't think you can make the case. I think the First Amendment will prevail, and at that point--and this won't come immediately--at that point, if Hollywood persists in having the kind of open programming that they're now marketing, I think somebody will say, “This is about the time when we change the Constitution,” and we will have control and you will have Big Brother saying what you may or may not receive.

Now that's a pretty dark picture, but it could easily come, if there isn't leadership and decency applied at the point of origination. I saw the tape of the first broadcast of “N.Y.P.D. Blue” hour on ABC. I saw it before it was shown to the affiliates, and it was more nudity and more sex than I think I've seen on the Broadway stage and certainly more than I've seen in