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And when the telephone company comes in and begins to compete with the cable people, then there's going to be a real battle going on that won't only be money; but it's going to be what kind of programs you have. It's going to be an interesting period; I'm sorry I won't be here.

You'll be around for awhile.

No, not at 87.

Are you serving any kind of capacity, informally or formally, to advise groups on what the future of cable is? I'm just interested, because you're so knowledgeable and up-to-date on it.

The woods are full of guys that can do this, and they're a lot younger than I am. No, I haven't advised anybody, except some investors who were interested in buying into cable or into programming. I've got some people in Israel who are interested in talking with me about advising them about their programming schedules and so forth. Mostly radio; but television is also in it. And I've given some free advice--and that's all it's worth--I'm not in the business of consulting.

But it's interesting to look at a blank piece of paper in a place like Tel Aviv and say, you know, what, based on your experience, you would do by the way of programming. But you know what they want? Hollywood product. So you don't have to be a genius to advise them on that.

But I did talk with a group about starting some radio stations and what kind of programming