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mean in terms of program ideas and so forth. If you had a program idea, if it made any sense you tried it out. It was fun. Even on the technical side, the development of color, the development of the long-playing record, the development of the debates. Those were all first cracks at some of those things. They weren't all home runs, but if you don't try you never know, and certainly nobody ever said: “Don't try.”

I'm not sorry about passing on in a short time in terms of not being able to do things, but I hate to miss out on watching to see how some of these things develop. [Laughter] I'm nosy. To have been one of the handful of guys that had his share of involvement in bringing television in to whatever shape it's in, and it's far from perfect and never will be, but to have been one of those guys, pretty wonderful.

I feel the same way about Harvard, you know, to a certain extent by accident to have been given a chance to be an Overseer--not that that was the great thing, but the thing that opened up doors that I had never seen before at a time when I was hungry for new adventures. It was fun. But it was also fun when I was a kid and I learned a lot about business in the small department store as a high school kid. That was pretty heady wine for me then, too. I've got no complaints. It's just a little lonesome, that's all. Not a little. It's terribly lonesome. [Tape stopped]

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