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unusual in a lamp she would usually let Ruth know, and generally we ended up with it. Because at the time of the sale I think there were over thirty Tiffany lamps in the house.

At the time you sold them recently, you mean.

Yes. She was interested in antiques generally and glass, silver, and jewelry certainly. She collected and I still have all her Edwardian pieces that she got in England and various places. I have the uncomfortable assignment of disposing of those things. I haven't catalogued them and I've put them off because it's just too painful to go over the pieces.

There's no one left living in her family that would--

No. So I guess she was a Renaissance kind of person.

Sounds like it. Tell me about her love of cars.

Oh, cars. Well, she grew up in a family where--She had two brothers, one older and one younger, and being a middle child and being a girl--and this was in a period when girls just didn't mix with boys and their play or anything else--and she did. She was as tough as she could be. But the father, her father, had an interest--was a mechanical engineer, worked at General Motors. But he was not in the motorcar side, he was in the refrigerator side and developed a compressor that was used in Frigidaire for many, many years. So he had a shop and he had a garage where he kept two cars, one of which was almost always torn down because he was working on it with his two sons. She would go out in the garage and get in the way, they tried to chase her out of the garage as a kid. But she held the flashlight and