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Oh, I see.

-- they had the leverage of the public against us. Because it would invalidate the system that was then on the air.

And they knew the power of color. They knew it was dynamite.

What system were they working on, for color?

They weren't working -- to the best of my knowledge -- on anything much at that time in the way of a color system. Facts might make me out a novice as far as what they were doing. But, what they eventually did, was to try to develop a system that was compatible -- so that the color didn't invalidate the black and white, so that you could get the color programs in black and white if you had a black and white set or if you had one of the color sets, of course, you could get it in color. And if black and white was still being broadcast, you could get the black and white on the color set. Compatibility was the fighting word at that time.

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So, I don't quite understand, though. The black and white sets that RCA was producing, would they have been able to take -- be converted to color sets, or did they have to be different sets?