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forth, their cameras were the cameras that Peter had developed. That was closed circuit, nothing was broadcast, so it didn't make any difference. The cameras that were used on the first moon landings were the Goldmark system, not the RCA system, because that was all closed circuit.

Right. Well, getting back to the thinking of backing Goldmark's system, what was the thinking? Was the thinking that he would come up with a color system so superior, that it would be approved by the FCC, and then you would have virtually a lock on the color and be able to market it?

We weren't in the manufacturing business at that time.

Yes.

This was a contribution on our part that had to do only with the broadcasting end. We weren't looking at the --

Oh, I see.

We had no facility to build a receiver at that time. Whether we would have moved earlier into the receiver business, I don't know. But we didn't. And our strategy was not very carefully crafted -- in fact, there was no strategy. Our tactic was to say to the industry, “Before you go pell-mell into black and white, think about color, because it's ultimately going to be a color world. Here's a system that, if you look at it and adopt it now, will be on the