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came from UHF or VHF, but, believe me, if you didn't have cable, you wouldn't put up with the UHF signal.

When was the time when you knew that you might have the lock on color, but RCA was running away with the market, in terms of getting televisions out into the country?

I can't answer that. Looking back, I think the temptation is to superimpose strategic planning--

[Laughter] Well, you're very honest.

And we didn't have it.

Yes, okay. Well, going back to the actual events then -- was it in 1945 that the FCC authorizes twelve VHF channels for black and white, and approves UHF for experimentation? And then, is it the next year that you go before the FCC to request color and to request licenses for stations in Cleveland and in Chicago? Is that correct?

I think the stations we asked for were in Boston, New York -- or Boston --

Oh, I'm sorry you're right.

Boston and Washington. Maybe Chicago, San Francisco and Los Angeles.