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programming and in effect run this place.” I was so unhappy about the thought of not having a hundred percent in the important market of Los Angeles -- which was more important to the network than New York really was, because of the ultimate programming source -- that I thanked him very much and said no thanks. I did make an affiliation arrangement with him, where they carried our programs, strictly as an affiliate.

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Okay.

And that was a good relationship. The Chandlers were supportive. We did a lot of programming in Los Angeles -- local programming -- that I don't think we would have done if we just had an ordinary affiliate relationship.

Ultimately, of course, we acquired a station that had gone black, if you will. It's an unfortunate expression to use in today's environment, but “going black” simply meant that it went off the air and the screen was black, there was no programming on it. That was a station that started early in the early days of television and it was owned by the Don Lee group of stations in radio. We acquired it for little or no money in the bankruptcy proceeding -- not quite a bankruptcy proceeding, but at any rate it was the settlement of an estate and so forth.

We acquired a property in Washington -- or we didn't acquire it. We made an affiliation in