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I'm sorry. World War II. That's true. We've been talking about several wars.

Sure I had a responsibility. But most of the war -- during most of the war, I was concerned with the part of the company that didn't have the network news in my portfolio. What I had, in addition to a lot of miscellaneous operating departments, I had the company- owned stations. At that time, I think we had as many as nine that we owned in radio. And their local news was under my wing, in the sense that -- Well, in fact, the local news had nothing to do with the network news operation. The News Department of CBS to this day does not control or supervise the news on the local station. For the most part, the policies are the same -- the operating policies -- but the local station has its own responsibilities to the community, and the network, or the CBS news, has an international news gathering point of view. So, in the days that you referred to, in World War II, when I had the company-owned stations under my wing, yes, I was responsible for news and news policy on those stations. A good part of their news, however, was the news that was supplied by the network news department. So it was a dual kind of news relationship. I think of one particular station, WCCO in Minneapolis, had very popular news personalities, if you will, that drew larger audiences than anything we had on the network when that station carried them on the network.

Cedrick [M.] Adams is one name I recall. Cedrick Adams had a noontime news and an evening news that had much higher ratings than anything the network fed to Minneapolis. And those broadcasts fell into the direct supervision of my office.

I couldn't listen to all of that programming, obviously, in Minneapolis. There was no way I could listen to it sitting here in New York City. Today, I expect that would be easier because