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into this and advise us. Agencies are not the backbone of America in terms of moral issues. So they called the networks to task, not CBS alone, but certainly put the finger on us to say that if we didn't take certain people off they wouldn't continue to sponsor the program.

Q:

Lucille Ball was named at one point, right?

Stanton:

Who?

Q:

Lucille Ball. Lucy Ball.

Stanton:

Not to my knowledge. Could be, I didn't know it. Oh, they, look, these people --

Q:

They named everyone.

Stanton:

They were crazy. I expect if we'd have done a weekly series with the Pope they would have found something to complain about. They saw a Communist under every desk and under every bed, so to speak.

Q:

What about the people who were falsely accused, and their names were published in Red Channels or somewhere else? Would Dan O'Shea also make it business to try to clear their names and keep them on -- would CBS stand behind an employee who had been proved not to have an affiliation?

Stanton:

If Dan felt they were falsely charged, they weren't held up. But in some cases, there were FBI records that they had been members of the Communist Party. And it was an





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