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action and exploration that might not have existed had it been closer to the Pentagon.

What kind research projects were you involved in?

For the military?

Yes.

Well, a lot of those were classified but -- I think the first proposal for a satellite system was developed by RAND in, I think, '46 or someplace back in there. I've got a copy of the report or did have, I'm not sure where it is now. I guess I had to return it when I left the board because it was a classified document.

But there were a lot of very special things having to do with Air Force problems of procurement and warehousing, manpower -- everything that had to do with running the Air Force.

And they had some strong economists. They had exceptional scientists, mathematicians on the staff.

How often did you meet a year?

I believe four times, but I could be wrong. It could have been only twice a year but for two or three days at a time. There were special meetings of parts of the board and part of the staff. I guess maybe we only met twice a year as a board. My memory isn't clear on that