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have to go to jail.” And so forth. She hadn't taken it that seriously until people, total strangers --

Once strangers come to you in the grocery store you begin to take it seriously.

Yes. She thought that her husband had really done something pretty wrong.

So Staggers -- and I said to him I was sorry, I couldn't do it. And he said, I want you to do something, I think you're making a mistake. These aren't his words, but -- the sense of it was -- I'm your friend -- he was older than I -- we've known each other for many years and I have great respect for you as an individual. And I just think you need divine guidance. And I want you to pray. And he got down on his knees behind the desk and wanted me to join him. And I declined, and this infuriated him, and he dismissed me.

And it was a very short time thereafter that it went to a vote on the floor. And the man who saved my life -- now I can't think of his name -- Wilbur [D.] Mills -- Wilbur Mills was in London and one of his strong constituents, who knew me and knew the situation, got hold of Mills in London, and I believe he said he was coming back to Los Angeles -- Because Mills had his heart set on running for the Presidency, so it had to be '72.

And he said that Stanton should meet him, he'd come back to Washington at the request of the affiliate in Oklahoma City, and see me, and hear my side of the case, and see if there was anything he could do to be helpful. And I think I saw him on a Monday afternoon. And when he heard what the case was -- my side of the case -- I don't think he was familiar with the thing at all -- he was head of Ways and Means and he was one man I hadn't called on because