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gentle persuasion, logical but gentle. He never raises his
What people do you think he's influenced in an important
Just about everybody he's touched. All these
people that I know who are involved in the Coalition, or
Common Cause, or you name it, have been vastly influenced.
I work with Dave Cohen on People for the American Way and he
used to be head of Common Cause. He followed Gardner as
head of Common Cause and was clearly a disciple of the man.
He got disciples everywhere. Really quite extraordinary.
And all of it in such a low key that very few people are
aware of how much influence he's had.
What about Rouse? Describe Rouse.
Rouse is small, slightly on the heavy side,
baldish, with an owlish face. He's amusing, incredibly
knowledgeable and when he's on the podium he sounds more
like a preacher than a speaker. You can practically feel
God is telling him to tell you to go out and do this and
that. He's also a charming, lovely person. He was a very
successful business man. He created the city of Columbia in
Maryland, the one between Washington and Baltimore, which
was one of the biggest gambles of all time. Just to go out
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