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Mac Arthur. Clare Booth Luce.

What about his brother-in-law?

Tex Moore?

Yes.

Yes, on really a strictly business basis. He relied a lot on Tex for sound business advice, financial advice, so on, so on. As far a the financial timings[?] were concerned, I guess Charlie Stillman would have been one of the people who he relied on. Of course, there's a difference between relying on and being influential. So, I don't think Charlie was that influential, but he did rely on his business judgment a lot. Who else would there have been?

If you take the key people of those you just mentioned, pick them, maybe it would be his wife, and Dulles. Describe in what ways they influenced him from your point of view.

Well, of course, I think Clare had a lot of influence on him. She was a very intelligent woman. She had a very curious and difficult relationship with him for a variety of reasons, but I'll mention the one, namely, she thought when she married him she was going to be part and parcel of the running of Time, Inc. He always kept her at arm's length. She never had an office in the building.