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got on well but they were not close. They didn't visit with each
other much. I don't suppose that Clare would have gotten on with
Margo Larsen very well, [?] may have something to do with it. As a
matter of fact, Clare didn't get on with any woman because she didn't
appreciate--she really thought of herself as a man. She was on the
hand, a beautiful woman, on the other hand, mentally she considered
herself to be a man, and acted accordingly at dinners when the
gentlemen would retire to the smoking room, smoke cigars, she retired
with the gentlemen. Surely, it absolutely drove them crazy!
So, she was contemptuous of women?
That's your understanding?
One last question about Luce. Do you know how he felt about the
choice of his successor, i.e. [Hedley] Donovan, if he was
Oh, he felt great.
Oh, yes. No question. He picked the right person, no
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