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No. [laughs] I have a funny anecdote! I was at some luncheon and the subject, of course, came up. This man asked me all sorts of questions. He was terribly interested in Time, Inc. and Chambers and Hiss, and later on I discovered that he was Hiss' lawyer. [laughs]

This was at the time, you mean, in 1950 this luncheon took place?

Yes.

What was--in other words, you didn't have any personal knowledge of anything involved in that case? Was that, “No?” [laughs] It doesn't record when you shake your head.

No. I looked at the whole thing with distaste.

Why?

Because Chambers didn't appear to be somebody that you particularly liked and Hiss did. And yet you had a suspicion that maybe Chambers was right and Hiss was a crook. It was just a very unpleasant confrontation between somebody that you would naturally associate with versus somebody that you said, “Oh, gosh. What the hell is he doing on the staff?”

What was distasteful about Chambers?