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--it continued.

--we continued, but who--I can't remember differing with him about who we backed in the post-Luce era, which I assume is what we're really talking about here.

Starting with 1968.

Starting with 1968--who was in 1968?

Nixon and McGovern? No. Is that right?

Yes, Nixon and McGovern. You know, it was quite easy to be--

Now was that, 1972? Was that Nixon and Humphrey? I can't--[laughs]

No, Humphrey came late--yes! It was Nixon and Humphrey, you're right.

And 1972 is Nixon and McGovern.

Yes, Nixon and Humphrey. That was more difficult. And I can't even--I guess we came out for Nixon, but it was--I don't remember enthusiasm on the part of Donovan or myself--but obviously it was mainly Donovan's responsibility about the 1968 election, or